Centrifuge in a washing machine does not turn on
The centrifuge principle is only found in semi-automatic washing machines, which are becoming less and less popular. As usual, the breakdown of the washing machine occurs at the most inappropriate moment in the country or in a cottage, and then you begin to truly appreciate the value of modern technology in people’s everyday life. The centrifuge ensures that the drum of a semi-automatic machine rotates during the washing and spinning process.
There are many reasons for centrifuge malfunction, and it is not so easy to find out why it does not spin. For diagnosis and troubleshooting contact our service center RepairTechnic, craftsmen in a short time can return your hard-working in operation.
Does not work spin on the washing machine semi-automatic
Why the centrifuge motor does not spin on the washing machine semi-automatic?
Let’s not beat around the bush and begin with the causes, because of which the spinning motor of a washing machine semi-automatic type Saturn, either does not spin, or can not get their speed. One of the most popular, breakdowns in this washing machine, is the wiring. The thing is that everything here is in twists, and done all this, so ugly that sometimes you just think, how can this machine work at all. In general, if the drum on the centrifuge does not spin, the first thing to do is to ring the wires, from the plug to the motor. There are three wires going from the motor, one wire is connected directly to the plug of the washing machine, the second wire goes to the clock mechanism and from it to the plug, the third wire goes to the capacitor. In general, you need to put a multimeter to the position of the probe, turn on the timer to maximum, that is, clockwork, and see whether or not there is a break in the circuit from the plug to the motor. If everything is normal, then you need to check the motor. Now you can answer the questions that I am often asked in the workshop and on my YouTube channel, but first, watch a video on how to change the spinning motor on a Saturn semiautomatic
Watch the video, how to connect the spinning motor of a washing machine semi-automatic, by wire
The spin motor on the washing machine semi-automatic “Saturn” can not move
I have a washing machine Saturn semi-automatic, the problem is. When I turn the spinning motor buzzes and barely starts to move, but does not spin, that is, it does not gain normal speed, and sometimes it just buzzes and does not spin. I unscrewed the hatch at the back of the machine and tried to push it, as a result, it began to rotate and even picked up its speed, the laundry squeezed well. On the next spin, the same thing happened again. In general, I now have to constantly push the motor. I am well aware that this should not be so, can you advise what to do to fix this problem with their own hands. On the forums they often talk about the capacitor, but no one says how to change it, and where is the capacitor in the washing machine Saturn. I am a woman, but I am used to doing everything myself. Please help, no money for the master
You understand correctly that the problem is most likely with the capacitor. The resistor is placed near the centrifuge motor, you can see it in the picture below. To replace it is not so difficult, of course if you find the same, if you can not find the original, it can be replaced with an analogue. It should be taken into account that in our case, in one case, there are two capacitors, one 5 uF, and another 10 uF. We are interested in the pins that go out from the side where it is written 5 microfarads. The wires near the inscription 5 microfarads, you can cut off and to the cut wires connect a capacitor with the same rating, that is 5 uF. I’m more than confident that your machine will run like new
Picture of the condenser for the washing machine semiautomatic
I have a Saturn washing machine, the spin motor can’t get the speed up. In general, it starts to run, then it vibrates and wants to reach the RPM, but it does not. On the advice of friends, changed the clock mechanism, did not help. Also, I saw that the motor goes to a cable and it is like pushing away, from some aluminum round thing, something like a shoe. I understand it is the brake, at first I thought it was the brake. So I pulled it, but the motor still won’t rev it up
If it had burned out, there would be no power to the motor and it would not even beep. You did the right thing to check how the brake works. It happens so that the cable gets loose and as a result, the clamp that brakes the motor of the centrifuge is tightly attached to the adapter from the motor to the drum, and of course the spinning of the drum is out of the question, that is, it just slows down the motor. Now the most important thing, if you checked all this and the result was not achieved, try to change the capacitor. Where is the condenser on the washing machine semiautomatic and how to replace it, I told in the previous paragraph. If after replacing the capacitor, the motor still does not pick up the desired speed, then you need to change the motor. Now I want you to look at the photo below and pay attention to the splash water marks, which are located throughout the diameter of the outer drum. I will leave a comment below the photo, believe me it’s important and very helpful to you
Photo, because of what burns out the centrifuge motor on the washing machine semi-automatic
As you understand I did not put this photo for nothing. If the motor burned out, most likely the reason is the leakage of water on its windings, in the photo above, you can observe, the first signs of water on the motor shaft and the drum. When the packing starts leaking, in most cases the water runs down the shaft, and the shaft in turn splashes it on the outside of the tank. I purposely took this picture and told you about it, so that you would understand that if you see such drops on your washing machine, then immediately change the oil seal. The centrifuge motor does not start and does not even have a buzz, and do not listen to those who say it is still good and lasts more than a year, it’s all lies. Understand, if there are drips, there is a leak
The centrifuge motor does not start and does not even hum
In general, such a problem with the washing machine semi-automatic Wave. Yesterday was doing laundry all right, today tried to do the spin, and there is no spin, as if something broke off. I unscrewed the hatch at the back to listen and look at the motor but there is no sound or movement, I tried pushing it and it just stands there like a rock. The clock mechanism is ticking fine, I mean I put it on for 5 minutes and it goes back to zero with no problem, I tried to run it with a tester, it all rings. The only thing I have my suspicions, is that during the last washing, when they took out the laundry, they moved the lid on the centrifuge tank. In general, I removed it as it got on, very much in the way of loading laundry. Tell me if this is it
Without the lid of the tank of the centrifuge, any semiautomatic machine, including Saturn, Wave, Delfa, DAEWOO, LG, etc.п., will not spin. To be honest I don’t know how you did it, but something tells me you ripped it out with the meat. In general, when you close the lid, you thereby close the contacts, through which the current begins to flow to the motor. Also this cover, tightens the brake cable. Look for such a lid and put it in place, without it the centrifuge will not work. In general I have a very good video on why there is no spin on the Saturn and similar, I highly recommend watching, in this video answers many questions
Watch video why the spinning motor of a washing machine semi-automatic does not spin
It is necessary to notice one more nuance, once in correspondence with my subscriber on channel YouTube, he proved to me that if the oil seal is normal, it is not necessary to change it, like he did not do it and his machine has been working for two months already. Guys I say this, if the motor screwed up the packing should be changed 100%, and if you saw traces of water on the motor or on the tank, as in the photo above, then there itself Godspeed, replace the packing. I think that thanks to the questions on my channel and my customers, I have clarified some of the nuances of repairing the washing machine with his hands. Below I suggest to watch video in which it is told how to remove the control panel, how to check the clock mechanism and about much more many other things. If you have SM Saturn or any other similar equipment, then this video, you should have as a desk book
Watch video, how to remove the control cover of the washing machine semi-automatic and in general about the faults Saturn
There are several reasons that cause the problem:
- Damaged safety sensor.
- Brake mechanism pads.
- Fault in the timer.
- Damage to the electrical winding.
- Other Causes of Malfunction.
Damage to the safety sensor
At some models, for example DAEWOO (DAEWOO) or Saturn, on a door which closes a tank with a centrifuge, the sensor is put. It is used to shut off the start-up. To get to it, you will need to remove the top panel of the washing machine. under it, and is a sensor with 2 contacts, which should handle a cotton swab moistened in alcohol.There is no need to scratch the contacts with a knife or to clean them with emery paper. Then it is necessary to check the operation of the sensor. Contacts must close when the lid is closed.
Washer Won’t Start — Washing Machine Troubleshooting
The brake shoes are fitted below the centrifuge and thus brake the centrifuge when it is opened.
Gorenje washing machine will not start.
The shoe is connected to the cover by a cable. When the cover is opened, the cable is pulled and
the pads are encircling the part of the motor that is rotating. This stops the centrifuge.
It is necessary to open the rear wall of the SMP and check the tension of the cable so that the pads do not touch the motor when the door is closed, because touching the brake pads can prevent the electric motor from starting.
Fault in the timer
In most semi-automatic washing machines (SMP), the timer is located under the top panel of the unit. It can be repaired by cleaning the contacts.
There are many tips on how to remove the panel, because. к. The design of washing machines varies from firm to firm.
After you remove the top panel you will notice the device that resembles a clock with gears.
There are contacts inside this device that can be burned if they are used for a long period of time. The reason is soot, which does not carry current.
You need to be very careful disassembling the timer, because the cover of this mechanism also serves to fix the gears on it. After you have unscrewed all the screws you need to remove it so that the cogwheels do not fall out when you open it. If you are worried that you can not open the lid neatly, then it is better to reinsure and take pictures of the entire mechanism. After removing the lid, you’ll notice the contacts. They need to be wiped with alcohol, just like in the sensor.
Damage to the winding
This can be checked with a tester, that is a device for measuring. Here are three steps on how to do it.
First, find the ends of the wires that come out of the electric motor. There are usually three wires: the first one is common, the second one is the one that leads to the start winding, and the third one leads to the working winding. The common wire is usually marked with the letter “N” and made in blue.
- You need to set the meter to check the resistance, and measure it between the common wire and one of the other two, for example. red. If you can see the resistance reading on the screen then there is nothing wrong with this winding. Do the same with the other pair, the common and, let’s say, the white wire. Then we measure the resistance and note the readings. If there is no resistance, it means that the winding is burned out. That is the reason. that the centrifuge in your semi-automatic washer does not work is a malfunction of the electric motor.
In this case there are two options: to buy and install a new motor or give the old one for rewinding.
Centrifuge of washing machine Siberia doesn’t work
Remove the relay, on the back side the order of closing the contacts is shown, check by the “testing” method, replace if necessary.
The centrifuge tank lid lock does not work
The easiest way is to short-circuit the necessary interlock pins.
The capacitor in the electric motor has lost its capacity
Measure the capacitance or replace with a known good capacitor.
Failure of capacitors MBGP series (in the photo on the left) is determined by appearance, electrolyte leaks from them, to the touch similar to the grease.
Centrifuge motor burned out
Electric motors of centrifuge in all semi-automatic washing machines such as “Siberia” burn in most cases according to the following scheme: the bypass valve got clogged or broke, the water began to flow into the tank of the centrifuge, and through the packing of the centrifuge collar (see fig.) drip on the electric motor.
Therefore, it is necessary to replace or repair all of the above parts.
Also, the collar of the centrifuge should be replaced (see pic below).).
Over time they stretch out, and it leads to the fact that the centrifuge tank sinks and with its base, when rotating tears the stuffing box of the centrifuge collar. Length of the new rubber 10cm.
To remove the engine, unscrew the 6 screws of the top cover, use a 10 mm wrench to hold the nuts on the opposite side and remove the cover.
To unscrew the centrifuge cistern nut (see the next page for details). Fig.) you need to make a spanner.
We take the pipe by inches, make two parallel cuts on it with a hacksaw from the end, unbend the “ears”, bend the pipe at an angle of 90 degrees.
Unscrew it in pairs, one to keep the tank from turning, and the other to unscrew the nut. To remove the tank from the shaft also need two people, one, with two hands pulls the tank up, the second through a wooden bar beats on the end of the shaft with a hammer.
For acceleration of the process it is possible to drop some acid (for example, vinegar essence) on the bottom of the tank. After removing the tank, take out a transverse pin from the motor shaft (on it, and the tank is kept) and turn the machine upside down, and remove the motor from the machine.
In order to take out the collar of the centrifuge, you must first remove the retaining ring, which is located at the side of the electric motor.
When rewinding the motors, check the condition of the bearings, replace them if necessary. 202 series bearings.
If the motor has no bearings, on bushings, it cannot be rewound, because there are no repair bushings. As a last resort, with the proper equipment, it is possible to match the bearing to the armature shaft and bore out the bearing outer diameter in the motor covers.
Troubles of semi-automatic washing machine with centrifuge
In the age of automatic washing machines, they have somehow forgotten about the “good old” semi-automatic machines and how they work. We remember about such machines, as a rule, only at dacha, solving their domestic problems with the help of these “toilers. You really appreciate a washing machine when it breaks down. What to do in such a situation, to call a master, or to make repairs themselves? Everything will depend on the nature of the fault and much more.
Why does not the spin in the washing machine semi-automatic?
The design of semi-automatic machines is quite simple. Such units are inexpensive, so they are in constant demand among buyers. washing machines are put on dachas, rented apartments, etc.д. But even such reliable and uncomplicated devices can break down. Often owners of semi-automatic washing machines are faced with the fact that the wringer does not work. Let’s find out why a centrifuge malfunctions? How can I repair my “home assistant”??
The problem is in the timer
The timer on most semi-automatic washing machines (SMP) is located under the top panel of the unit. It can be repaired by cleaning the contacts.
After removing the top cover you will see a clock-like device with gears. Inside it, you can see the contacts, which can burn out with prolonged use of the unit. Soot appears on them, which does not allow current to pass.
The timer should be disassembled carefully. The mechanism cover also serves to fix the gears on it. After unscrewing the three screws, it must be removed so that the gears do not fall out. If you are afraid that you can’t remove the lid carefully, it’s better to take a picture of the mechanism. After opening the lid, you will see the contacts. As in the case of the sensor, they need to be wiped with alcohol.
Causes of centrifuge failure
The semi-automatic washing machine has many vulnerabilities that can cause the centrifuge to malfunction. Let’s consider them in more detail:
- The motor does not start when washing or spinning. In turn, there are many reasons why the engine does not start. It can be burned out contacts or supply wiring. Also deterioration of the motor brushes, mechanical breakdown of the collector or burning of the winding;
- Damaged timer, which determines the washing time or temperature sensor;
- Failure of the relay or capacitor, which are responsible for starting the motor.
The listed reasons are more related to the performance of the motor. But if the motor does not start, then the centrifuge will not operate.
If the motor is all right and starts, but the centrifuge still does not rotate the drum, the following may be the possible causes:
- Overloading the tank of the washing machine, this can also include overfilling the tank, that is, when too much water gets into the tank. The power of the motor may simply not be enough to rotate the drum. The laundry tipping to one side, which causes the tank to swing, which can catch the drum and slow it down;
- The belt has come off the pulley;
- The brake, which is responsible for blocking the drum, has jammed;
- Foreign bodies blocking the drum rotation.
- Failure of the control unit (for automatic washing machines) or mechanical control;
In automatic washing machines, the causes of failure of the centrifuge are similar, but there may be some differences. Namely:
- Breakdown of the pressostat, which is designed to control the water level in the drum. In this case, the spin mode may not start because the sensor does not receive the required signal of the presence of water in the drum;
- Breakdown of the tachometer responsible for the number of revolutions per minute. Here the drum may rotate at a very high speed, even in washing mode, or not reach the required number of revolutions. Breakdown of this kind is very rare, in this case you need to replace the sensor;
- Pump breakage.
As we can see, there are many reasons for centrifuge breakage. In many cases, you can’t do without the help of a handyman.
A semiautomatic washing machine is considered more simple, but nevertheless it has an impressive list of possible breakages. It has a very specific design. There are a number of possible causes for a semi-automatic machine not working.
Motor does not start when spinning
A burned out contacts or broken wiring supplying the motor can cause a malfunction. The timer, temperature sensor or motor could be broken; the capacitor or relay to start the motor. Transformer may be broken.
And worn out brushes are the reason of motor failure every second SM semiautomatic type. In this case, disassembly and repair of the motor is required, accompanied by the replacement of brushes.
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The motor is defective, the centrifuge does not rotate
If the CM with a centrifuge does not spin, but the motor is running, it is not necessarily a malfunction. You may have overloaded the tank with wet laundry. But the brake that locks the drum may also malfunction.
The drum can also jam due to overwatering or getting debris, small objects, laundry in the tank. Then there is no need for repair. it is enough to disassemble the tank and remove the foreign body.
Engine works, drum does not rotate (Slavda)
Probable causes of such malfunction of the Slavda SM:
- The laundry is piled up and lies on one side, which causes the rotor to swing and hit the drum. This blocks the spinning and operation of the machine.
- Bushing may have worn out after long time in use. If they are broken, the rotor does not rotate as it should, repair is needed.
- Drive belt slipped or torn. You need to replace the assembly or replace it.
Machine leaks when wringing
- The tank is damaged and leaks.
- The fasteners are broken or stretched, the connections between the hoses and the centrifuge parts are loose. Vulnerable place. connecting hoses to pump or tank.
- Diaphragm or attachments are defective.
- The seal on the drain valve is loose or torn.
- The body of the drain pump is damaged.
- The mechanism of the water drain valve is broken.
- Tubing or hose is damaged.
- The seals on the cover of the drain pump are damaged, so the pump leaks water.
The pump does not drain well or does not work at all
Drainage hose or pump blockage Cause of drainage failure: clogged drain hose or pump. Do not exclude the breakage of the impeller. in this case, the water drainage first slows down and then disappears.
The machine can hold water for a long time also for mechanical reasons, which are not breakages:
Water leaking from one tank to another
If water is “migrating” from the washing tank to the spin tank with the centrifuge, then the by-pass port is out of order. A more precise cause is the deterioration of the valve rubber, due to which the water is not retained in the drum. Can’t be repaired without repair.
Machine does not turn on
When the SM does not start, the cause must be sought in the electrical. it may be a broken plug, power cord or relay. It is not uncommon for a malfunction to occur when a motor fails. Requires maintenance and repair of electrics, inspection of the engine.
Important! This is not a complete list of faults of semiautomatic machines. But often the problems are superficial and are not breakdowns. For example, a level sensor failure can be eliminated by straightening a jammed drain hose.