Why do they run out quickly?
If we talk about why the batteries in a gas water heater run out quickly, the main reason is usually because the batteries are not of high quality. In speakers manufactured today, usually two D type batteries are installed, with a voltage of one and a half volts. If there are cheap batteries made in China, they can last two or three weeks at most.
The principle of operation of batteries in the case of such equipment is simple and consists in the fact that when you turn on the device batteries are triggered and send current to the control unit. And it sends a signal to the spark plug, which produces a spark in the ignition unit. Under pressure, the valve is opened and the gas starts to flow into the burner. The ignition is carried out in the same way.
If the batteries have died, then the spark will begin to produce unstable or the speaker will stop turning on. In some models it can be understood by blinking of a special LED, which is designed for this very purpose.
But the reasons for the rapid discharge of batteries can be several:
- High humidity;
- malfunctioning of the ionization sensor;
- displacement of the electrode responsible for ignition;
- Problems with the control unit;
- Poor-quality batteries.
Now let’s talk about each cause in as much detail as possible. High humidity can be observed when installing the speaker in the bathroom. On the parts simply begin to settle moisture and steam, which do not allow normal ignition. Oxidation of the contacts begins, and corrosion occurs on the parts. It is necessary to sweep and ventilate the room more often, and to install a good ventilation system.
If we talk about incorrect operation of the ionization sensor, such a sensor is responsible for the presence of flame in the burner. If it is shifted too much to the side, the spark will take a long time to produce, and the energy of the charge will simply go nowhere. In this case you should see where the sensor is and correct its location, if necessary. It can also just get clogged by soot. When the gas arrives, the spark should immediately ignite and transform into fire. If this does not happen, we are talking about a displacement of the ignition electrode, then you can try to move the electrode closer to the burner.
Speaking of problems with the control panel, we note that the batteries are responsible for the stable operation of the electronic module. If there are any problems in it, it will take more energy than usual to work. If this is the problem, you should remove the cover and inspect the unit. After that we disconnect the wires leading to it, open it and check all the parts for fouling. If visually there are no problems, you should call a master.
About low-quality batteries we have already written above. If we talk about what batteries are needed, it is better to follow the recommendations that the manufacturer gives in the instructions to the gas boiler. It is best to use an alkaline version LR20 from manufacturers such as Energizer and Duracell.
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Instead of batteries in the gas water heater power supply for 3 volts
Is it possible to replace the standard finger batteries in the device of electric ignition of the gas boiler with an alternative source of energy? Of course, you can connect alternative power sources, including using the home power grid. There are several reasons for replacement. First, the battery can run out at any time, and second, the cost of good alkaline batteries is quite high. And that’s why let’s understand how to connect an electronic ignition unit for gas stoves to the mains.
Instead of batteries in the gas column power supply for 3 volts
Is there a possibility of replacing the standard AA batteries in the gas stove ignition unit with an alternative energy source? Of course, you can connect alternative power sources, including the use of the home power grid. There are several reasons for replacement. First, the battery can run out at any time, and secondly, the cost of good alkaline batteries is pretty high. And so let’s figure out how to connect the electronic ignition unit for gas columns to the mains.
What good is a power supply for a gas water heater instead of batteries
The gas water heater has replaced the centralized water supply in many homes. The fact that utilities, when using individual water heating, is much cheaper than if you pay for hot water separately. Another plus of installing such a device is that you do not depend on the water company, and you can get water at any convenient time for you, for example, the disconnection of hot water in the summer time you are not afraid of.
Previously, gas water heaters were quite dangerous and inconvenient to use products. They can explode if used improperly and ignited from matches.
Modern gas water heaters have in their design a lot of fuses and sensors, which in case of any failure will shut off the device and inform you about the fault. Also a big plus is the function of automatic ignition. Such an electronic device from one button press is able to ignite the burner of the gas boiler.
Using a power supply instead of batteries
In order to save money on battery replacement and not to spend money on the purchase of expensive batteries, the gas water heater can be upgraded on their own. After installing the adapter for a domestic gas water heater instead of batteries, ignition will be performed by current from the network.
- In case of power grid failures, there will be no hot water;
- Such “tuning” can deprive you of the right to free warranty service of the water heater.
If the owner has no experience in connecting the power supply for a household gas boiler or other equipment, it is better to entrust this procedure to a professional.
Doing the work, do not forget about aesthetics. Some homemade structures still look a bit clumsy
For self-tuning of the speaker you will need an adapter that corresponds to the parameters of the water heater. Since the batteries give out a total voltage of 3V, you need a block with a similar output voltage. Working voltage in the network is 220 V, the adapter must have the same voltage on the input.
The marking of the appropriate device will contain the following designations. 220V/3V/500 mA. In addition, you need to buy “mom-and-pop” connectors.
In order to reconnect, there are a number of steps that need to be taken:
- Gain access to the speaker power box and disconnect the wiring from it. For your own convenience, the connectors can be photographed or marked in any way, marking their polarity.
- Cut off the plug from the purchased power supply, separate its wires and carefully solder with the purchased connectors, observing the polarity. You can use a multimeter to determine the polarity: a positive reading of the device in voltage measurement mode indicates that the polarity of the wires corresponds.
- Connect the prepared wires to the speaker.
- Plug in the adapter and do a test run of the instantaneous water heater.
If the connection is made correctly, the gas water heater will work properly, maintaining the desired water temperature. After the test run can hide the wires in the case.
To avoid malfunctioning due to current fluctuations in the network it is appropriate to add a stabilizer in the construction. The device will save the speaker from voltage fluctuations.
Gas water heater conversion from batteries to a power supply, how to do it, what we need to consider?
There are several varieties of chemical current sources used in gas appliances:
Standard LR20D size alkaline battery. The product belongs to the number of power sources of the irreversible type, once the voltage drops, the element must be disposed of
When buying a product, you should pay attention to the manufacturer and the date of manufacture, because the shelf life does not exceed 4-5 years. The average life of the power supply is 6 months
Nickel-metal hydride battery of HR20D standard, reusable after recharging. It has a higher voltage of up to 3.7V (compared to 1.5V for alkaline batteries) and a higher capacity. The device is charged after 3-4 months of use, the service life reaches 5-6 years. The charger uses a special unit that is plugged into a household AC outlet. The device is purchased separately; there are kits consisting of a charger unit and 2-4 batteries.
Another option of batteries for the gas stove.
The problem is related to the increased voltage, installing a nickel-metal hydride battery cell is possible instead of two batteries that have been connected in a series circuit.
If the design used 1 battery or the working voltage of the ignition unit is 1.5 V, you must use nickel-cadmium batteries with an output voltage within 1.2 V.
There are special lithium polymer batteries with 1.5V. Power sources have an increased capacity, but you need to use a special adapter to restore it. If the charging conditions are violated, the body of the device overheats and causes a fire or explosion. The chemicals used in the battery provide a low rate of self-discharge, which increases the time of the gas-fired unit’s operation without recharging the power source.
Help redo the gas stove
Friends, good day to all. Can you tell me the Electrolux GWH 265 ERN Nano Plus gas water heater. Full automatic, electric ignition to the burner, in fact, the question is about it, it is on batteries 2 pcs D. I want to connect the power supply instead of normal batteries and through it take electricity for the ignition and display. The question is. If you apply at the terminal. power supply through the let’s say a universal unit, setting it to supply 3V as from 2 batteries will not burn constantly plugged in the socket circuit? I understand the silly question but the speaker is new and the batteries she eats quickly do not want to burn it for their ignorance. Please help me advice if it is worth it to put the block or it is better to leave it on batteries
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Good afternoon, this speaker is running for the third year, and the other day the error E1 began to appear. Is it battery related or something to do with the ignition. Batteries are new and powered from the network. There is still an error like that. What can it be? ?
Don’t worry about it! Connect it to! I have a “Neva-4510” has been running like clockwork for two years, from the power supply through the LM317. voltage calculators for it on the network a lot!
First, find out the parameters of consumption. at least use a tester in the gap to measure the current. At idle and when ignition and regulation goes. From here we dance.The power supply must supply this maximum current at 2.5-3V. If the power supply will be at least a little stable, then everything will be fine.There are three-legged chip stabilizers at 3.3 V. they are up to 1.5 A for sure, you just need to look.And you can buy a Ali Step-Down converter (50 rubles). Set it on the table at 3V, and the input he can give anything, from 4.5 to 40V DC (but better not more than 10V of output voltage, otherwise it will be warm if the current is significant).From any transformer (plus 4 diodes inside), such as the old Nokia, you can supply power to the board.They peak up to 3A without problems, at currents of about 0.5 there’s practically no heat.and forget it.Well, the batteries via a toggle switch are for backup.If you have one, just turn off the backlight and that’s it.
You can buy 20 batteries ?Connect two batteries to get 3 volts and connect 10 in parallel and you’ll be happyit will work for abouta dozen years.
Leave it on batteries.Once a quarter to change is not so expensive.
The indicator shows the time constantly and the backlight is on it or not. if you have one, just turn off the backlight and that’s it. On a speaker like this, the batteries fly away at once. Advice from GorGas.)))))
It eats a lot. buy rechargeable batteries instead of batteries!
I have a Bosch speaker, two cells “373” lasts for 14-15 months. Only the ignition, there is no display (but it does not make a difference, I think). We use them very often.
If you really want to go to the store and buy Ariston unit and connect it instead of batteries directly into the bulb and 220 and you’ll be happy) at least we have such units in the store
The boiler draws quite a lot from batteries, about 5-8 amps, or even more. There’s a reason they have D-size batteries in there. The power supply should be able to deliver so much. It is better to begin with measuring the battery burn (by shunt 0.1 Ohm in the circuit break), and from the results of what you see to think further.
As an option, you can make a low-power charger, and the battery to give a large current
Why would there be 5-8A?? Almost any PSU will be enough if it can supply 1-2A.)
the phrase “prolonged discharge” does not suggest anything? Like how fast the D-size batteries run out
Why is there 5-8A?? According to the datasheet of D-size batteries, maximum 1A long discharge) And there is nowhere for the boiler to eat 5-8A, chips only power, regulators, which eat a mizzer, and ignition at startup, which hardly takes more than 1A and then a fraction of a second) Almost any power supply is enough, if it can deliver 1-2A)
5-8A is the peak current when applied to the load and decreases after a period of time. Like in a car, when you turn the key, the starter gets a big batch of current t.к. the collector is in a closed state.The peak current only lasts a few microseconds.
the boiler eats quite a lot from the batteries, Amps under 5-8, or even more. D-size batteries are installed there for a reason. Power supply should be able to deliver that much. It is better to start with measuring the battery burn (by shunt 0.1 Ohm in the circuit break), and from the results of this you can think further.
As an option, you can make a low-power charger, and the battery to give a large current
Preparing the gas boiler to power from the mains
Making a power supply for the gas water heater is a very responsible moment that requires concentration and care. However, the action itself is quite simple. If you know how to use a soldering iron, you can easily do this job.
Many experienced electricians believe that the simple connection of the power supply to the speaker is not enough, because due to power surges the speaker, connected to the outlet, will quickly become unusable.
To power the gas water heater from the network you should buy a special device
Experienced electricians believe that it is best to install a stabilizer between the power supply and the column. It will prevent the elements of the device from igniting due to power surges, and keep the gas boiler from breaking.
By connecting a stabilizer, you will protect yourself from an unexpected breakdown of the gas water heater. This is a very important condition, because no one wants to be without hot water for a long time.
Also in order to save electricity electricians advise to include the power supply into the socket only at the time of firing. This way you will reduce the power consumption of the gas boiler to a minimum.